Hi there! Ian? We've been very blessed and grateful to have the expert care we needed with the delivery of Wynne, and with incredible people around us cheering us on and serving as our family away from home! We're so excited to have her :) It would have been much more difficult to have had her in the US. But whilst the the NHS is a social program, it does not create the same social effects as welfare benefits. Acknowledging it's good, my question with programs like the NHS or Obamacare is whether they are economically sustainable, and at what cost. Compulsory income distribution, in the case of Obamacare, doesn't sit well with me.
The submission referred to in the blog post would then be the welfare benefits received. The point of difference, I suppose, is whether infantilization, which we both agree is occurring, is caused by capitalism, or by welfare benefits.
I would argue that it is by welfare benefits. The grounds for that is that whilst capitalism does create winners and losers, the answer to the less fortunate is not to give money, put to provide opportunities to work. George Washington had a welfare system along these lines, leaving families as the first source for aid. Close friends would come next. If the individual was not able to find aid through those means, then the government would step in. The government would not simply grant money though. The individual would be expected to perform service to attain it, and tasks were found to accommodate limitations that might exist. Infantilization, I believe, comes when governments cradle individuals without expectation to contribute anything to society. The individual loses the feeling of an honest day's work, and sees entitlements as a career. In the US, many times a person's quality of life goes up with welfare than one's own means, leaving no incentive to become self-reliant or leave the system.
I've benefited from safety nets myself, and am grateful specifically for family, friends, and programs that have allowed new life :) I'm not opposed to safety nets, but I don't agree with welfare systems that allow career recipients, nor the ability to politically buy them off with promise of further benefits. This way, those recipients lose accountability for themselves, and their activities, raising children for example, which become responsibilities of the state and not themselves. This is disempowering.
The state should only be present when necessary, and in the case of benefits, for the purpose of putting people back on their feet to make an honest day's wage.
I was excited to read your comment on my blog! Thanks! I'm almost positive this is my dear friend Ian. If not, my apologies, but you're going to hear my appreciation for him :) Thank you so much for being a great friend to Lindsay and I. We're most likely going to be at Church on Sunday, but if not, we wanted to thank you for your service to us and friendship. We're back to the states soon, but we've appreciated you and Kath, as well as fantastic ward members being our family away from home :)
Hi there! Ian? We've been very blessed and grateful to have the expert care we needed with the delivery of Wynne, and with incredible people around us cheering us on and serving as our family away from home! We're so excited to have her :) It would have been much more difficult to have had her in the US. But whilst the the NHS is a social program, it does not create the same social effects as welfare benefits. Acknowledging it's good, my question with programs like the NHS or Obamacare is whether they are economically sustainable, and at what cost. Compulsory income distribution, in the case of Obamacare, doesn't sit well with me.
ReplyDeleteThe submission referred to in the blog post would then be the welfare benefits received. The point of difference, I suppose, is whether infantilization, which we both agree is occurring, is caused by capitalism, or by welfare benefits.
I would argue that it is by welfare benefits. The grounds for that is that whilst capitalism does create winners and losers, the answer to the less fortunate is not to give money, put to provide opportunities to work. George Washington had a welfare system along these lines, leaving families as the first source for aid. Close friends would come next. If the individual was not able to find aid through those means, then the government would step in. The government would not simply grant money though. The individual would be expected to perform service to attain it, and tasks were found to accommodate limitations that might exist. Infantilization, I believe, comes when governments cradle individuals without expectation to contribute anything to society. The individual loses the feeling of an honest day's work, and sees entitlements as a career. In the US, many times a person's quality of life goes up with welfare than one's own means, leaving no incentive to become self-reliant or leave the system.
I've benefited from safety nets myself, and am grateful specifically for family, friends, and programs that have allowed new life :) I'm not opposed to safety nets, but I don't agree with welfare systems that allow career recipients, nor the ability to politically buy them off with promise of further benefits. This way, those recipients lose accountability for themselves, and their activities, raising children for example, which become responsibilities of the state and not themselves. This is disempowering.
The state should only be present when necessary, and in the case of benefits, for the purpose of putting people back on their feet to make an honest day's wage.
I was excited to read your comment on my blog! Thanks! I'm almost positive this is my dear friend Ian. If not, my apologies, but you're going to hear my appreciation for him :) Thank you so much for being a great friend to Lindsay and I. We're most likely going to be at Church on Sunday, but if not, we wanted to thank you for your service to us and friendship. We're back to the states soon, but we've appreciated you and Kath, as well as fantastic ward members being our family away from home :)
All the best,
Sean